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it was never true in libya. look at what was happening in real time, and there is nobody, nobody that thought there was a video that was causing a protest in benghazi, nobody. >> but, again -- what i was referring to was the intelligence committee does refer to a spontaneous event at the embassy in cairo that evolved into a direct attack on benghazi and the argument by critics is, this is a conflation of issues and the white house trying to obscure it and certainly trying to make the president look good. anita dunn, and that was the subject of that e-mail. >> that is unprecedented in the history of white houses, okay? >> trying to make the president look good? >> or at least -- >> or politicizing national security? >> no, trying to get a coherence message out there on shows like yours. it's been called a smoking gun. if you look at this, it's a lot more like a leaky water pistol. there's not a lot that's new in here. frankly, it's a broader kind of e-mail that gets sent around probably every friday and then agen
it was never true in libya. look at what was happening in real time, and there is nobody, nobody that thought there was a video that was causing a protest in benghazi, nobody. >> but, again -- what i was referring to was the intelligence committee does refer to a spontaneous event at the embassy in cairo that evolved into a direct attack on benghazi and the argument by critics is, this is a conflation of issues and the white house trying to obscure it and certainly trying to make the...
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the factors make libya a concern. 30 miles from the libya border, which had multiple links to libya, including training. despite the superb execution of the intervention, this created a much more complicated regional dynamic for the u.s. senate and helped jihadist groups and has had negative consequences for libya's neighbors. it is not clear the intervention saved lives. some scholars argue that the fact the nato intervention prolonged the war meant that it cost more lives than it safe. -- saves. even if it saves more lives than libya, further lives were lost as a result. this is why i cannot join with those who proclaim nato's intervention to be a strategic success. i appreciate the opportunity to testify and i look forward to answering your questions. >> thank you. chairman, ranking member cummings, committee members, i am grateful for the opportunity to speak with you about libya's security crisis and what the international community can do to assist. i bring the perspective of both a scholar who travels frequently to the country and a military officer who served in tripoli prior
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when they have the opportunity to engage, when president obama has engaged, libya being an example, they went after him saying why did you do that? it's not a matter of whether they care, it's a matter of they are like the no president. i have a toddler. right now she's in her no stage. she says no to be in the opposition. that's where the republican party is. >> it's a fair comparison to compare republicans to toddlers. >> i was just going to say let's go back where we started and that was the economy. you said there are some people doing well, but there are a lot of people who are concerned. so when you have a population that's concerned about employment, the last thing they are worried about is ukraine. the last thing they are worried about is foreign policy. they are more concerned about my home, my employment opportunity. that's why you see this mixed attitude because a lot of people are concerned about their future and their employment opportunities here at home. >> hopefully as they watch the republican scandal machine crank its way through the spring between the ir, and trying to
when they have the opportunity to engage, when president obama has engaged, libya being an example, they went after him saying why did you do that? it's not a matter of whether they care, it's a matter of they are like the no president. i have a toddler. right now she's in her no stage. she says no to be in the opposition. that's where the republican party is. >> it's a fair comparison to compare republicans to toddlers. >> i was just going to say let's go back where we started and...
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at the time, reports from libya, media reports said the same thing. and investigations by the senate intelligence committee and "the new york times" both come up with the same conclusion. so even with what susan rice said, if not entirely accurate was kind of close to what other people found. so if there's a difference of opinion here, it wasn't -- >> i think it's close to what we know months and years later now. my question, is this something in the republican brain soup? did they somehow get the idea that something bad happened here? if you've got boehner under sodium pen thol, imagiathol, im thought -- what's your worst case scenario about what happened. not press releases that were issued. did anybody deserve blame for a beloved ambassador getting killed? >> i don't have any idea what they believe. i think some believe that. >> believe what? hillary was out doing something else? >> something like that. or that there had to be some kind of lack of preparedness on the obama administration's part for this to have happened. i think a lot of them don't
at the time, reports from libya, media reports said the same thing. and investigations by the senate intelligence committee and "the new york times" both come up with the same conclusion. so even with what susan rice said, if not entirely accurate was kind of close to what other people found. so if there's a difference of opinion here, it wasn't -- >> i think it's close to what we know months and years later now. my question, is this something in the republican brain soup? did...
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consulate that killed america's ambassador to libya and three others. issa wants kerry to appear before the committee at a public hearing on may 21st. >>> coming up, first we got good news on health care sign-ups. now good news on jobs. even republicans are having a hard time pouring cold water on all the data goodness. then melissa harris perry joins me to talk about the horrific story of nearly 300 kidnapped nigerian school girls. ♪ with diabetes, it's tough to keep life balanced. i don't always have time to eat like i should. and the more i focus on everything else, the less time i have to take care of me. that's why i like glucerna shakes. they have slowly digestible carbs to help minimize blood sugar spikes. glucerna products help me keep everythibalanced. (crash) ugh! i'm good. well, almost everything. [male announcer] glucerna. delicious shakes and bars... it's eb. want to give your family the very best in taste, freshness, and nutrition? it's eb. eggland's best. better taste. better nutrition. better eggs. the annual company retreat. planned,
consulate that killed america's ambassador to libya and three others. issa wants kerry to appear before the committee at a public hearing on may 21st. >>> coming up, first we got good news on health care sign-ups. now good news on jobs. even republicans are having a hard time pouring cold water on all the data goodness. then melissa harris perry joins me to talk about the horrific story of nearly 300 kidnapped nigerian school girls. ♪ with diabetes, it's tough to keep life balanced....
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when we talk about libya, north africa, the arab spring, the popular rueful, the people wanted the dictator out -- however much we disagreed with them, he was duly elected. let ukrainian sandal that. syntel because he turned back to russia and away from the european union, we have to get back to what what makes our country strong. it just does not fly when we say that we really need to punish russia for doing something that we would probably do if it happened to us. host: those are presidential elections set for the ukraine on the 25th of may. there is the territorial phot on the 11th of may. on the 11th of may. alberta is in jacksonville, florida. make sure you mute your television or radio and go ahead. put you on hold and we will come back to you. also in jacksonville, philip. philip in jacksonville. we lost you. let's go back to alberta. i think you're getting a little confused. we will move onto to nancy in lagrange, georgia. caller: i hope i am still a democrat. i don't think the sanctions are effective. i heard on msnbc that mr. putin signed a contract with exxon mobil. and the numbe
when we talk about libya, north africa, the arab spring, the popular rueful, the people wanted the dictator out -- however much we disagreed with them, he was duly elected. let ukrainian sandal that. syntel because he turned back to russia and away from the european union, we have to get back to what what makes our country strong. it just does not fly when we say that we really need to punish russia for doing something that we would probably do if it happened to us. host: those are presidential...
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>> yeah, i think the number two on the ground in libya, in the state department, the deposit team chief felt the same way: so it would seem that given that there is still some uncertainty about what was done that resulted in thousands those five sunday talk shows, even though there have been some congressional hearings, new evidence that was redacted up to this point. it may be worthwhile for both sides to sit down at the table and find out what really happened here. >> general ran, he said we should have tried to do something to help our people in benghazi although peopit was shown that there wasn't much in the way of military assets in place. he said we always have to ride to the sound of the guns. general, your reaction to that? >> that sounds pretty good in a rambo movie, but had we rushed off, pel mel into an ambiguous situation without the proper intelligence or planning, we may not be talking about a situation here where .4 people were killed but we could have had the extraction forces, rescue forces killed as well because in a russia to do something, you rush to failure. that's
>> yeah, i think the number two on the ground in libya, in the state department, the deposit team chief felt the same way: so it would seem that given that there is still some uncertainty about what was done that resulted in thousands those five sunday talk shows, even though there have been some congressional hearings, new evidence that was redacted up to this point. it may be worthwhile for both sides to sit down at the table and find out what really happened here. >> general ran,...
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we lost four americans that were in libya that was a rat hole after muammar gadhafi was out. so this is an embarrassment for the white house. but how do they reclaim the narrative so jay carney doesn't look like just a big liar in trying to remind everybody from that lecture the history of the time, which is okay to do, but how do they look like they're not lying about what was done? >> you know, if there are any other e-mails, just put them out. just put everything out. because in the end, this is a scandal without a center. you know, what's at the center of this is -- was the real -- if there's a scandal, it is a state department security preparations prepositions of forces, the assessment before the attack as to what sort of danger the ambassador and the cia facility might have been in in benghazi. that's what went wrong there. and, you know, to expect there to have been a clear narrative of exactly what the motivations were of the miscreants who did this, a couple of days after the attack is ridiculous. it's absurd. nothing ever happens like that. so if the criticism is t
we lost four americans that were in libya that was a rat hole after muammar gadhafi was out. so this is an embarrassment for the white house. but how do they reclaim the narrative so jay carney doesn't look like just a big liar in trying to remind everybody from that lecture the history of the time, which is okay to do, but how do they look like they're not lying about what was done? >> you know, if there are any other e-mails, just put them out. just put everything out. because in the...
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ambassador to libya, chris stevens. he placed the blame on the state department for not making stronger requests for help. >> we didn't know how long this would last when we became aware of the distress. nor did we completely understand what we had in front of us. we had a kidnapping, rescue, recovery, protracted hostile engagement or any or all of the above. >> this newly released e-mail suggests that the white house blamed the attack on a video to take away from criticism of the president's policies. this previously secret white housey mail lists the top goals for susan rice as she prepared for a now infamous round of interviews just days after the attack saying she should, quote, underscore these protests are rooted in an internet video and not a broader failure of policy and that's what she said. >> when taken in reaction to this very offensive video. >> reporter: the white house insisted for 18 months that rice's talking points came from the intelligence community but this e-mail was written by a top political aide
ambassador to libya, chris stevens. he placed the blame on the state department for not making stronger requests for help. >> we didn't know how long this would last when we became aware of the distress. nor did we completely understand what we had in front of us. we had a kidnapping, rescue, recovery, protracted hostile engagement or any or all of the above. >> this newly released e-mail suggests that the white house blamed the attack on a video to take away from criticism of the...
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this is the nature of libya right now. these militias consider themselves the army -- >> did you vet -- >> this is the challenge we have in this country. there was the central army -- >> so we would try to normalize the security situation. the red cross has been run out. we reduce the number of gun toters and increased local militias that we could not vet? >> it is highly risky. traveling to libya, you can feel relatively safe because these militias provide a neighborhood watch program. many of them are filling the void of the security forces. we need to look at how we use the word "militia" carefully because these are the security forces. >> two years ago it was not normal in a situation, it was more dramatic, no way to vet people, and we have reduced the number of folks who have provided security and increased the people who were watching the front door, and it was clear they were walking away from the front door and we had sharia walk-through and the attack was on. let me take a recess. we will move toward vote and come
this is the nature of libya right now. these militias consider themselves the army -- >> did you vet -- >> this is the challenge we have in this country. there was the central army -- >> so we would try to normalize the security situation. the red cross has been run out. we reduce the number of gun toters and increased local militias that we could not vet? >> it is highly risky. traveling to libya, you can feel relatively safe because these militias provide a...
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libya is writing a constitution. they held elections in 2012 that, by all accounts, were relatively transparent and fair. they remain very pro-american, which has been contrasted to many other countries in the region. >> i want to thank all four of you for your testimony. it is very enlightening. it is a contribution to what has been a conversation about a tragedy in libya. thank you very much. >> thank you. for what purpose does the german from florida receipt -- seek recognition? >> along with 60 members, this letter was sent to the president saying it was a year now since the benghazi attacks. not to be done to bring these people to justice and asking for the ministration to act. >> without objection, so ordered. the gentleman from utah is recognized for five minutes. >> thank you and thank you all for being here. thank you for the service of your country in general. god bless you. thank you for your service over 33 years. on september 11, 2012, what was your ranking title? >> i served as the deputy director for i
libya is writing a constitution. they held elections in 2012 that, by all accounts, were relatively transparent and fair. they remain very pro-american, which has been contrasted to many other countries in the region. >> i want to thank all four of you for your testimony. it is very enlightening. it is a contribution to what has been a conversation about a tragedy in libya. thank you very much. >> thank you. for what purpose does the german from florida receipt -- seek recognition?...
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concernors make libya a . 30 miles from the libya border, which have multiple links to libya, including training. despite the superb execution of created aention, this complicated regional dynamic for the u.s. senate helped jihadist groups and has had negative consequences for libya's neighbors. it is not clear the intervention saved lives. that thelars argue fact the nato intervention prolonged the were meant that it it safe. lives than even if it saves more lives than libya, further lives were lost as a result. this is why i cannot join with who reclaim nato's intervention to be a strategic success. i appreciate the opportunity to testify and i look forward to answer your questions. who>> thank you. chairman, ranking member cummings, committee members, i am grateful for the opportunity to speak with you about libya's security crisis and what the international community can do to assist. i bring the perspective of both a scholar who travels frequently to the country and a military officer who served in tripoli prior to the revolution. governmenth libya officials, military officers, and
concernors make libya a . 30 miles from the libya border, which have multiple links to libya, including training. despite the superb execution of created aention, this complicated regional dynamic for the u.s. senate helped jihadist groups and has had negative consequences for libya's neighbors. it is not clear the intervention saved lives. that thelars argue fact the nato intervention prolonged the were meant that it it safe. lives than even if it saves more lives than libya, further lives...
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intervention in libya. the oversight committee's mission statement is that we fundamentalure two principles. first, americans have a right to know that the money washington takes from them is well spent, and, second, americans deserve an efficient, effective government that works for them. our solemn responsibility is to hold government accountable to taxpayers. work inr job to partnership with citizen watchdogs to deliver the fax to the american people and bring reform to the federal bureaucracy. this is our mission. today the oversight committee convenes a fourth hearing related to the security situation in libya before, during, and after the september 11 terrorist attack which claimed the lives of four americans. the committee has previously brought forward important witnesses who offered new and likening testimony on security failures that forced the administration to walk back false claims about the nature of the terrorist attack. witnessesof previous thetified key questions in inner agency process tha
intervention in libya. the oversight committee's mission statement is that we fundamentalure two principles. first, americans have a right to know that the money washington takes from them is well spent, and, second, americans deserve an efficient, effective government that works for them. our solemn responsibility is to hold government accountable to taxpayers. work inr job to partnership with citizen watchdogs to deliver the fax to the american people and bring reform to the federal...
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. >> the house oversight and government reform committee holds a hearing this morning on libya and the 2012 benghazi consulate attack. the hearing follows newly-released white house emails showing how the administration shaped its response to the attack. live coverage at 9:30 a.m. eastern on c-span3. you can join the conversation on facebook and twitter. >> see there was a city slicker who was driving around lost and came across this ol' cowboy. so the city slicker asked the ol' guy how to get to the nearest town. -- >> not that old joke? not again. [cheers and applause] ladies and gentlemen, i've been attending these dinners for years. and just quietly sitting there. [laughter] well, i've got a few things i want to say for a change. [applause] this is going to be fun because he really doesn't have a clue about what i'm going to say next. george always says he is delighted to come to these press dinners. baloney. [laughing] he is usually in bed by now. i'm not kidding. i said to him the other day, george, if you really want to end tyranny in the world you will have to stay up later. [l
. >> the house oversight and government reform committee holds a hearing this morning on libya and the 2012 benghazi consulate attack. the hearing follows newly-released white house emails showing how the administration shaped its response to the attack. live coverage at 9:30 a.m. eastern on c-span3. you can join the conversation on facebook and twitter. >> see there was a city slicker who was driving around lost and came across this ol' cowboy. so the city slicker asked the ol' guy...
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intervention in libya. is torpose of the hearing examine political and economic challenges facing libya and whether policy changes made during the multilateral intervention may have contributed to these challenges. that is live today on c-span 3 and 9:30 this morning. coming up next, we will talk with rob bishop, chairman of the house natural resources subcommittee about who should control public land. then we will talk with a democratic congressman, member of the budget committee. we will be right back. >> almost 5000 students enter this year's student cam contest. we talked with the top prize winners about the documentary. all decidedwhere we that this was going to be our topic was one that was an article on fracking in our local newspaper. it said that fracking was happening two miles from our house. it is a national problem and a local problem. verythen on, we were passionate about the subject and it seemed obvious that that is what our subject should be. to life.s essential everyone requires food to li
intervention in libya. is torpose of the hearing examine political and economic challenges facing libya and whether policy changes made during the multilateral intervention may have contributed to these challenges. that is live today on c-span 3 and 9:30 this morning. coming up next, we will talk with rob bishop, chairman of the house natural resources subcommittee about who should control public land. then we will talk with a democratic congressman, member of the budget committee. we will be...
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. >> we had a guest here who complained that when we saw similar images in libya and ukraine, members of the senate took to the floor and demanded action, but when it was south sudan, silence. your reaction. >> well, i can see where that argument comes from. i think a lot of people are very frustrated, policy makers around the globe, as to how to get to these two leaders, the president and former president, and how to change their calculations. i don't think some sort of international intervention is on the table here, but there really is a good deal of attention that's going to this. it's not so much why don't people care, it's how can we change their behavior and so far, we're coming up empty. >> how will john kerry's presence at the peace talks be received given the recent threat of u.s. sanctions? >> i think the symbolism of his direct involvement is going to be a good thing, and i suspect there may be conversations about those sanctions and how they can be most impactful. a lot depends on the region, on neighboring countries. it's good to hear secretary kerry is meeting with thei
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keep in mind, though, everybody who was talking to them, the people on the ground in libya, the c.i.a., they were all saying it's terrorism. it was an attack. what is curious, though, is the -- and so that is ben rhodes. ben rhodes' brother is david rhodes, the president of cbs where sheryl atkissson used to work. she quit because she said cbs wouldn't let her do stories like on benghazi. she says that congressman chaffetz told her the government tried to keep this classified. they declassified it initially. yeah, you can look at this. then when they reallied the house oversight committee wanted it, they blacked out so much stuff t didn't make any sense. that's why judicial watch sued them. that's why we now know that it leads back to the white house. >> right. mike morell also involved there, saying, he was the deputy c.i.a. direct, i'll volunteer to go meet with hillary clinton to work out a message here because it looks too good for the c.i.a. because the c.i.a. knew this was dangerous and warned ahead of time and that they didn't wants to look basically too good and make the f.b.i
keep in mind, though, everybody who was talking to them, the people on the ground in libya, the c.i.a., they were all saying it's terrorism. it was an attack. what is curious, though, is the -- and so that is ben rhodes. ben rhodes' brother is david rhodes, the president of cbs where sheryl atkissson used to work. she quit because she said cbs wouldn't let her do stories like on benghazi. she says that congressman chaffetz told her the government tried to keep this classified. they declassified...
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as it was to those in libya. that this was a complicated attack, it was well planned, had oordinated, it othing to do with the video. this article goes on. on sunday, september 16, rice told cbs' "face the nation," quote, based on the best information we have to date, what our assessment is, as of the present, is in fact what began spontaneously in benghazi as a reaction to what had transpired some hours earlier in cairo where, of course, as you know, there was a violent protest outside our embassy sparked by this hateful video. to the judicial watch documents -- that's unquote. the judicial watch documents confirm that c.i.a. talking points that were prepared for congress and may have been used by rice on "face the nation" and four additional sunday talk shows on september 16, had been heavily edited by then c.i.a. deputy director, according to one email. quote, the first draft apparently seemed unsuitable because they seemed to encourage the reader to infer incorrectly that the c.i.a. had warned about a specifi
as it was to those in libya. that this was a complicated attack, it was well planned, had oordinated, it othing to do with the video. this article goes on. on sunday, september 16, rice told cbs' "face the nation," quote, based on the best information we have to date, what our assessment is, as of the present, is in fact what began spontaneously in benghazi as a reaction to what had transpired some hours earlier in cairo where, of course, as you know, there was a violent protest...
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water directly back into president's own needs only a few places around the world do that including the libya. so which is it falls residents will be washing their dishes they even brushing their teeth drinking and cooking with water that has come directly from what they just lost down the toilet and they are story get out about it wonder officials say it's perfectly safe though usually that which water goes to a plant that looks solid and then this plant into the wichita river but now instead of being sent to the river it will undergo micro filtration and then reverse osmosis to remove contaminants like pharmaceuticals then it will be chemically treated to remove pathogens add a dash of chlorine and fluoride of course and then it'll go straight back to people's faucet it might sound gross but the reality is this is probably going to be a growing trend in america as water becomes scarcer due to droughts growing populations and greater consumption there's an organization called the water resists o.c. asian whose members include utility companies government officials and researchers and they're
water directly back into president's own needs only a few places around the world do that including the libya. so which is it falls residents will be washing their dishes they even brushing their teeth drinking and cooking with water that has come directly from what they just lost down the toilet and they are story get out about it wonder officials say it's perfectly safe though usually that which water goes to a plant that looks solid and then this plant into the wichita river but now instead...